Sunday, June 08, 2008

My Really Insecure (Adoptive) Father

For reasons I can't fully explain, I just needed to stop thinking of myself as an adopted person.

After coming to grips with decades of denial, and thinking about it 24/7, I kind of overdosed.

My adoptive mother is ten years dead. At 81, my adoptive father is growing weaker as Lewy Body dementia continues to destroy his body and mind.

There's also something slightly silly about being middle aged and thinking of yourself as an adopted child. So I've put it aside. As some of you know, I've shifted to blogging about dealing with narcissistic parents.

But last night, adoption as an issue resurfaced.

N-Dad (narcissistic dad) has taken to reminding me, daily, that father's day is coming up.

Yes, I know, I said.

Then we had a replay of the conversation that we've had for as long as I could remember....when he was of sound mind, if you overlook the narcissistic part.

"Well, you better not foget about it," he warned me.

"Have I ever forgotten?" I ask.

"No," he reluctantly admits. "And you better not this year."

"I won't," I promise.

"I'm your father you know," he says.

"Yes. I know," I admit reluctantly.

"I'm your father and don't you forget it," he concludes aggresively.

What he's really thinking (I suspect) is that he's not my biological father and that there's some man running around out there who is, technically. And it makes him angry and he has to take it out on me. The few times I did ask what he knew about this mystery man, n-dad referred to him, creepily, as "the man who made you."

What I'm thinking is...no...your not my father. I've never had one. I may have got stuck with you and I may have acted as your mother and daughter, but you've never acted like a real father. Real fathers don't act like children and make their only kid an emotional caretaker.

I, by the way, have RARELY mentioned my adoption at all to my adoptive parents. No surprise, considering the reaction my basic questions got.

Apparently, n-dad still has some major insecurities and, apparently, it's my job to reassure him that he is who he says he is. I can't imagine my husband every saying anything so bizarrely obvious to my daughters.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

My mom loves to say "YOU just remember you're MINE!"

It is insecurities for sure. I do a fair amount of eye rolling and cringing when she says it. I am still learning to let things roll off my back.

I hope you are well Nina. You're doing great with your dad. You are a very strong woman. xoxo

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Blogger Stefan Lanfer said...

What would you rather your n-dad say, in the run up to fathers day, or in general?

If you were to adopt a child yourself (maybe you have?), what will you do differently?

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Blogger EnzGrl said...

Stefan, I am not the writer of this blog, but as someone who was also adopted and had narcissistic adoptive parents, I want to respond to you. My parents used to do this kind of thing as well, and I would rather they not mention it constantly, as it takes away the meaning. Being *told* to remember something, especially in a threatening/aggressive way, does not make someone want to remember that thing. It also takes away the meaning. If Father's Day is supposed to be about celebrating one's father, feeling *forced* to do so is vastly different than celebrating because your father was a great guy and you want to let him know that. Normal parents do not demand recognition, they have earned it and get it because they were decent people. People like my parents demand it because they know they are not entitled to it and did nothing to earn it, and it's a mockery.

In addition, nothing I do for them is ever right, or enough, or special, etc., but that's another subject.

As for adoption, again, I cannot speak for the writer of this blog, but I personally would never adopt a child. Adoption as practiced in the US today is full of problems that are not being addressed, and it does not address the needs of children who truly do need a home or family.

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Blogger Eve said...

Tina, I feel for you. It's so irritating when one is an adult to have a parent be so demanding--especially when you've been so dutiful. Sigh.

EnzGrl didn't answer Stefan's question by stating what she would prefer her father say in the "run up to fathers day or in general." Rather than emphasize what you don't want, I'd like to read, too, about what you DO want. I started to make some suggestions of my own about what would be a great "run up to fathers day," but it got so long that I thought it would make a great post on my own blog... and so I'll do that, but wait to see what either of you comment to Stefan.

5:44 PM  
Blogger Celera said...

I can't reasonably comment on Father's Day, I suppose, because I'm not much of a holiday person, especially these holidays that I think are just made up by the greeting card people. So, as a parent, I don't say much of anything about Mother's Day or any of the rest of it.

Nina, you are an adopted person. You're also a lot of other things. You don't have to stop thinking of yourself as an adopted person, but it's ok to shift your focus. We don't live half a century as just one thing.

I suppose Stefan's question is interesting in a hypothetical way, but really it doesn't matter much what you would rather have had from your father. You won't get it now.
What matters is what you do with your own children, what their father does with them, what you support and encourage. How you love them so that on Mother's Day or Father's Day or any other time, they know they are loved and they can let you know how much they love you, not because it is the day when such things are required, but because they do. That is what really matters.

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Blogger Unknown said...

Your writing is so poignant, Stefan's question is so barfalicious, it is not your responsibility to answer every
N00b, who obviously hasn't even read your blog, doesn't even know if you are an adoptive parent, sheesh.

I miss you Nina. Hugs.

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Blogger Sunny said...

*Sigh*

Hope all is going well. Miss hearing from you on the forum. Take care.

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Blogger Unknown said...

Hey Nina, can you email me? the email I have for you isn't working.

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Blogger After Beckett said...

Nina, I just wanted to leave a note to say how much I like your blog. About a year ago I sought out information on narcissism on a fluke. I was looking for anything at all that proved that there were people who experienced some of the same things I did. Then recently, after some non-friends were aggressively pursuing the adoption route I found myself getting particularly nauseous and repulsed by their ideas, and I found myself here. The attitudes and ideas that adopters have seems so delusional and narcissistic sometimes. I knew there had to be a link, and your blogs demonstrate that very well. Now if only people were smart enough to listen.

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Blogger Gershom Kaligawa said...

hope you're okay, totally missin' ya!

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Blogger elizabeth said...

Ditto. Miss ya Nina! Please come back! xoxo

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Add me to the chorus Nina - have always been illuminated by what you have written, and dont let the idiots deter you! Hope you are doing well!!

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nina - you doing okay?? Havent heard from you in a while...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nina -

Just found my way here from your other blog . . . so many things I'd like to say on both blogs that my mental circuits just crash.

Finding your blogs has been an immense relief. I was adopted by two N parents,and reading of your struggles has helped me so much already. Knowing I'm not alone - there's a community online that I can connect with for validation and folks I can help validate and support. Thank you.

Mother's & Father's Day have always been excruciating. Going through all the cards to find one that says something I can send with integrity. The wistful wondering, barely acknowledged: what must it be like to have parents one could send those other, lovely, loving cards to.

When my n-dad isn't reminding me that he never wanted kids (only signed the papers because n-mom wouldn't stop crying *everyone else is having babies!*), he's reminding me that he's *the best dad I ever had . . . har har.*

Nina - I see a lot of your friends are calling out to see if you're okay, and it's been a while since you posted on your other blog as well. I'm just pulling myself out of another tailspin and am finding myself increasingly isolated. I just want to add my hopes that you're okay.

A friend of mine recently turned me onto singer/songwriter Amy Steinberg. She's kept me going these last couple months, and I highly recommend her. She's walked through some deep darkness and sings knowingly about the struggle and triumphantly about the light.

Is there always a spark that the dark can't deny? Is there always a sun underneath the grey sky? Is there always a hope, even tho you might not be able to see? Is there always a person inside of you?

and from another:

Hang on, it ain't gonna been long, stay strong, walk through, walk on. Keep still, hand over your will, give up control, let it be, let it go, Hope. Stand tall, cuz we all fall; we're gonna make it in the end my friend. Hope! We're gonna make it in the end, I said. Hope! We're gonna make it in the end my friend.

There must be something to the fact that all us forty-somethings are waking up to this and coming together.

Sending you lots of peaceful and gentle thoughts.

B.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is the first time i have read your blog, and i hesitate to write what should or needs to be said to your "father..."

meaning, i feel like there is something you would have rather told him , other than what you did regarding Fathers Day...

...i will bet you can guess what that was...

...like YOU said...YOU are an ADULT now, not a CHILD...and your FATHER does not want you to know that...

...what a shame that the loyalty issue could hurt so much...

...is it RIGHT that i or anyone should have to give you PERMISSION to be ANGRY???!!!!

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Blogger Possum said...

Just checking in to say Hiya!
Hope you're OK Miss Nina.
Missing you.
Hugz from AUS.
Poss. xxxxx

8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just spent a good half hour (that I cannot get back, unfortunately), reading your blog. What an ungrateful girl you are.

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Elizabeth said...

This is the first time reading your site. I looked around at some of the adoptee blogs on your site and have come to realize I am in the minority of having a great adoption. I am 20 years old, adopted when I was a baby. My parents have never once made me give them father's/mother's day cards or said, "you remember you're mine." I call my parents, my parents, not n-mom or n-dad or adoptive father, just plain ol' mom and dad. I love them with all my heart and I know that I hadn't been placed for adoption, I wouldn't be here-or alive. I feel proud to have been adopted. Sorry adoption has been such a negative experience for you.
Good luck with your father and everything.

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Anonymous Isabel said...

I had an *n* Dad.
He couldn't have a baby.
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Made the man infertile.

He has issues with masculinity
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It was September 1973
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Toxic harpie yarping snitching bitch.

I cut them off last Christmas
I have always wished them dead
I loathe their very essence
I wish they'd chosen someone else instead.

I have Attachment Disorder, and ADHD
And a wound to a cellular level
I cannot trust, I can't commit,
I was a fantasy and empty.

My nDad bought a new garage door
And spruced up the entrance hall
Ready for when the daughter came to her senses
No one loves you like your mum and dad

Too much to drink and violence
Has ruined all his chances
With his oxygen he sits in the window
Watching. Waiting. Passing. Bye.

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Oh my God ... I'm not the only one to feel like this ... it hurts so much ...

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Ignoring the above.....and of course adoptive parents are often in the business of making sure you feel grateful and continue to feel grateful.Because of course they believe adoption is for parents and not for babies and children to find suitable,good parents.
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