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I was adopted and I adopted a baby, thirty-eight years later,<br />I have never been so sorry I did anything in my life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27818433.post-2845945378646827602007-11-06T20:12:00.000-08:002007-11-06T20:12:00.000-08:00Esther, Will visit your blog and post there. I su...Esther, Will visit your blog and post there. I suspect adopting children of that age strips away a lot of the pretense that often - even unintentionally - goes along with adopting infants. So talking about adoption with your children may be easier because there was a VERY definite "before" that simply can't be ignored or minimized. <BR/><BR/>EVE...I welcome and thank you for your EXTREMELY validating words. Actually, I was so moved I would have done a boo hoo if my teenagers hadn't got into an argument and wrecked my emo mood! In real life, not so angry. In fact, that's probably the last thing anybody would call me. So blogs are great for releasing all the pent up anger and pain that a nice, compliant girl held in for four decades!Ninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12077857199651890460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27818433.post-5668211134365222692007-11-06T17:47:00.000-08:002007-11-06T17:47:00.000-08:00Nina, I have some adoption posts on a mothering bl...Nina, I have some adoption posts on a mothering blog I discontinued, namely because I wanted to focus on issues of individuation and wholeness rather than "only" mothering or adoption. However, you might find them interesting, because it will give a more robust view of some of my thoughts.<BR/><BR/>About the three-year-old: I would go with the adopted person's perceptions rather than that of the adoptive parents simply because of the adoption romance. I'd put money on your take being more realistic, and the child being confused. 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We adopted TWO girls.....(not to)Sorry typo. We adopted TWO girls.....(not to)Estherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15611454114153990642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27818433.post-46772397251763465312007-11-06T17:34:00.000-08:002007-11-06T17:34:00.000-08:00Great post Nina. I wanted to come over and thank y...Great post Nina. I wanted to come over and thank you for responding to my comment on Possum's blog. I appreciate the feedback.<BR/><BR/>I wanted to know if you could please check out my post today over at my blog, and let me know what your opinion is on the question I pose. And please feel free to ask as many adoptees to come over and share their opinion as well.<BR/><BR/>We adopted to older girls in September (age 2.5 and 4.5). So, they know they were adopted. No pulling the wool over their eyes on that one. ;o) So with your post today, what would you suggest to adoptive parents as an alternative? 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